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#9233723 Mar 13, 2014 at 12:50 PM · Edited over 4 years ago
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I submit my proposal for a new Guild ranking structure (Stage 1) as set out below. You will see I have done away with the 2 inactive ranks (which never made any sense to me) and propose to deal with inactive members by reverting them to Initiate rank, or in some cases, removing them from the guild entirely. Stage 2 will cover the revised rank permissions.

Current Rank | New Rank
Inactive 60+ = Initiate
Inactive 30+ = Acolyte
Initiate = Adept
Family = Family
Recruiter = Veteran
Elder = Elder
Founder = Founder
Leader = Leader

Promotions will be treated as a form of reward, proportional to length of service within the guild plus Guild Status Points earned. The details of which are set out below. It is intended that existing active guild members will not lose out in the re-structuring process, even though their guild rank title may change, eg Recruiter to Veteran. As usual, all comments will be most welcome …

The guild rank structure is as follows:

INITIATE:
This is the starting rank within the Guild when you first join. You will be on a 14-Day trial-period.
Once you have completed this trial period AND have acquired the necessary Guild Status Points, you will be promoted to the next rank.
Each of your characters within the guild, will rank independently.
Under 14 Days/2 Weeks Time in Guild.
* Under 5,000 Guild Status Points in Guild.
* Also used to rank guild members inactive over 100 days (This does not apply to the original founder)

ACOLYTE:
* 2 Weeks to 1 month time in Guild.
* Over 5,000 Guild Status Points in Guild. Also applied as an alt rank (see Adept below)

ADEPT:
When you achieve this Rank on one of your characters, we will Rank all of your Alts as ACOLYTE RANK.
* 1 Month to 2 Months Time in Guild.
* Over 25,000 Guild Status Points in Guild.

FAMILY:
At this Rank you have the ability to /Guild Invite.
* 2 Months to 3 Months Time in Guild.
* Over 75,000 Guild Status Points.

VETERAN:
* 3 Months to 6 Months Time in Guild.
* Over 200,000 Guild Status Points in Guild.

ELDER:
* 6 Months + Time in Guild.
* Over 500,000 Guild Status Points in Guild.

FOUNDER:
This is the Guilds’ OFFICER RANK.
There is a limited number of Officers at any one time; this position is given to loyal, long standing, hard working and dedicated Guild members.

LEADER:
The Leaders reserve the right to promote/demote outside of these limits.
#9234017 Mar 13, 2014 at 02:05 PM
Leader
120 Posts
First, I like this format very much.

I'm not sure about he terminology here so bear with me on this question. If someone does a quest that earns status, a portion of it goes to the guild. Let me call that "Earned Status" If someone goes to the guild hall door and donates, they can donate both money and status. Let me call that status "Donated Status"

Do you look at only Earned Status when determining rank or both Earned and Donated?

I can see the benefit of rewarding someone for willing to donate their hard earned status to the guild but I'm wondering if someone can take advantage of that somehow by "padding" their numbers.

As for me, I don't mind if you need to demote my rank based on status points as long as I can continue to recruit. I'm enjoying it so far. :)
#9234437 Mar 13, 2014 at 03:38 PM
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147 Posts
Ok, allow me to clarify some of the terminology:

Guild Status Points (GSP)

GSP earned = those status points that show up alongside your name in the guild window. They are achieved by completing writs, which can be either adventure writs or crafting writs.

Donations of SP's at the door are just that ... voluntary donations which are taken out of your personal status as shown on your character window.

Now, for the purposes of promotion, ONLY earned GSP will be considered. So you need to be displaying at least 5000 GSP in the guild window to earn a promotion from Initiate to Acolyte. This will only apply to new members.
#9234583 Mar 13, 2014 at 04:11 PM
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Question about these GSP:

Wife and I are both new, and currently at lvl 30 or so. However, we aren't doing writs per se and don't really do much to earn status points at the moment.

Does that mean we will be removed from the guild in 2 weeks?

Thanks in advance
#9234717 Mar 13, 2014 at 04:45 PM
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120 Posts
Thanks for the clarification Jarathryn.

Raziela, no you won't be removed from the guild unless you are inactive for a period of time (some time over 100 days without logging in) or if you do something horrible like, oh I dunno, leave a coffee pot on and burn down the guild hall or something :)

Not doing any status quests or writs just means you won't be automatically promoted. The guild hall costs us both platinum and status each week, so the idea is to reward members that are actively helping is keep up with the status payments. Feel free to play the game the way you like best and I know I won't look down on you for it. Unless I'm taller than you then I can't help it. LOL
#9235277 Mar 13, 2014 at 06:39 PM
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147 Posts
#9234583 Raziela wrote:

Question about these GSP:

Wife and I are both new, and currently at lvl 30 or so. However, we aren't doing writs per se and don't really do much to earn status points at the moment.

Does that mean we will be removed from the guild in 2 weeks?

Thanks in advance


I'd like to reinforce what Daob has already stated, you will definitely NOT be removed from the guild. However, I would encourage both of you to do writs, for a number of reasons:
1. You would be following a natural line of progression through the ranks, thus improving your standing within the guild, as well as demostrating your commitment to the guild.
2. Higher ranks would open up access to various guild amenities.
3. It would help you gain XP/level whether it be crafting or adventuring, and
4. It would help build up your personal status points, which you can use to purchase special items from City Merchants.

This guild is currently entering a new beginning, and although its' aims and goals are just the same as they ever were. The way we go about managing the whole community must change to ensure its' survival in the future.
#9237212 Mar 14, 2014 at 07:43 AM
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You mentioned alts ranks would go to acolyte once you hit adept my question is can they rank up through their own status points also or will their status points be taken into account and added to our mains points how will the status points on sides work?
#9237737 Mar 14, 2014 at 10:08 AM
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147 Posts
#9237212 Evan2110 wrote:

You mentioned alts ranks would go to acolyte once you hit adept my question is can they rank up through their own status points also or will their status points be taken into account and added to our mains points how will the status points on sides work?


Yes, as soon as one of your toons achieves the rank of Adept (by earning at least 25000 GSP, plus 1 month in guild) all your subsequent alts will automatically be ranked as Acolyte, even though they may have 0 GSP! However, if those alts start to earn GSP themselves, then they will also be eligible to gain promotion in their own right.
At no point will GSP from various alts be added to the GSP accrued by your main, each toon maintains his/her own GSP.

I hope this answers your question :)
#9239199 Mar 14, 2014 at 04:48 PM · Edited 5 years ago
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Thanks that answered my question perfectly.
#9239427 Mar 14, 2014 at 05:55 PM · Edited 5 years ago
Leader
147 Posts
For warriors, I have a 92 Shadowknight .. and I love playing him ... very powerful, especially at higher levels. I also have a 92 wizard, and although physically weak, he has various snares/roots to keep his enemies at bay. At higher levels he deals devastating amounts of damage !

But please try to retain this thread for questions regarding the new ranking system only.
You can always start a new thread for unrelated questions of your own on ANY topic. Simply click on forums along the header at the top, select the appropriate sub section and then click on "Add Thread" to start your thread. Simple ! :)
#9249676 Mar 17, 2014 at 09:41 AM
248 Posts
FYI there are other ways to gain GSP

Complete Heritage Quests

Complete Signature Quests

and depending on the level of the guild and level of the items in question:

Sell status loot
Francois Fromage - Ratonga Assassin
Slaad Scaleskin - Iksar Monk
#9250266 Mar 17, 2014 at 11:46 AM
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147 Posts
#9249676 Francois wrote:

FYI there are other ways to gain GSP

Complete Heritage Quests

Complete Signature Quests

and depending on the level of the guild and level of the items in question:

Sell status loot


Thank you for the input. :)

However, you may be missing the point, Francois, as this thread was created to inform members of a major restructure of the Guild ranking system and I only touched on ways to gain GSP as an example to illustrate a point in answer to Daobs' question.

But just for the record ... In the case of Status loot, I deliberately avoided mentioning it, as I felt it would only add to the confusion, especially as the guild is already at max level, and therefore selling the loot would have no affect on GSP.

HQ's and Signature Quests I know are very familiar to Daob, and so I didn't feel they warranted a mention, especially as we could devote a complete new thread to them!
#9250512 Mar 17, 2014 at 12:38 PM
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#9234583 Raziela wrote:

Question about these GSP:

Wife and I are both new, and currently at lvl 30 or so. However, we aren't doing writs per se and don't really do much to earn status points at the moment.

Does that mean we will be removed from the guild in 2 weeks?

Thanks in advance



My reply was more in response to the new member concerns as referenced above. That is one way they can amass large amounts of status points if they are interested in earning promotions without doing a single writ.
Francois Fromage - Ratonga Assassin
Slaad Scaleskin - Iksar Monk
#9281327 Mar 23, 2014 at 08:31 PM
111 Posts
Looks like a great system. Miss the game and the guild. Busy with grad work and work. Keeping in touch, though.
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